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Ace
PostPosted: 2008-08-07 11:12:29
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On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Grumpy
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>On 7 Aug, 09:33, Ace wrote:
>> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:45:12 +0000, Phil Launchbury

>> >Does an exclamation mark override a question mark? I abominate using
>> >them together.. (which would have led to See?! or See!? which looks..
>> >American).
>>
>> Or just shit. Its one of those hard-and-fast rules, AFAIAC.
>>
>
>Whats wrong with ?! ?!
>Can you understand it?

No, I dont know if its supposed to be a question or an exclamation.


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Grumpy
PostPosted: 2008-08-07 02:16:13
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On 7 Aug, 10:12, Ace wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Grumpy
>
> wrote:
> >On 7 Aug, 09:33, Ace wrote:
> >> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 07:45:12 +0000, Phil Launchbury
> >> >Does an exclamation mark override a question mark? I abominate using
> >> >them together.. (which would have led to See?! or See!? which looks..
> >> >American).
>
> >> Or just shit. Its one of those hard-and-fast rules, AFAIAC.
>
> >Whats wrong with ?! ?!
> >Can you understand it?
>
> No, I dont know if its supposed to be a question or an exclamation.
>

If I want to indicate that my sentence is asking a question, I think
its reasonable to terminate the sentence with ?
If I want to indicate that my sentence is expressing an exclamation, I
think its reasonable to terminate the sentence with !
If I want to indicate that my sentence is asking a question AND
expressing an exclamation...
You can see where this is going, cant you?
Cant you?!
Yeah, you can; have another try!!


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CT
PostPosted: 2008-08-07 09:20:48
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Ace wrote:

> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Grumpy
> wrote:
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> > Whats wrong with ?! ?!
> > Can you understand it?
>
> No, I dont know if its supposed to be a question or an exclamation.

Its both.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrobang

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Phil Launchbury
PostPosted: 2008-08-07 09:18:11
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In article , Ace wrote:
> On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Grumpy
> wrote:
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>>> >Does an exclamation mark override a question mark? I abominate using
>>> >them together.. (which would have led to See?! or See!? which looks..
>>> >American).
>>> Or just shit. Its one of those hard-and-fast rules, AFAIAC.
>>
>>Whats wrong with ?! ?!
>>Can you understand it?
>
> No, I dont know if its supposed to be a question or an exclamation.

Surely a question can be exclaimed? After all the ! is just indicating
the tonality and voicing of the spoken phrase.

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darsy
PostPosted: 2008-08-07 02:45:15
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On Aug 7, 10:18 am, Phil Launchbury wrote:
> In article , Ace wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Grumpy
> > wrote:
>
> >>> >Does an exclamation mark override a question mark? I abominate using
> >>> >them together.. (which would have led to See?! or See!? which looks..
> >>> >American).
> >>> Or just shit. Its one of those hard-and-fast rules, AFAIAC.
>
> >>Whats wrong with ?! ?!
> >>Can you understand it?
>
> > No, I dont know if its supposed to be a question or an exclamation.
>
> Surely a question can be exclaimed? After all the ! is just indicating
> the tonality and voicing of the spoken phrase.

its only really an issue in declamatory first person text (like
Usenet) - if you were writing fiction you wouldnt need the combined
exclamation/question mark. In fact, arguably, the exclamation mark
isnt strictly necessary in fiction at all.

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darsy
PostPosted: 2008-08-07 02:45:59
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On Aug 7, 10:20 am, CT wrote:
> Ace wrote:
> > On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Grumpy
> > wrote:
>
> > > Whats wrong with ?! ?!
> > > Can you understand it?
>
> > No, I dont know if its supposed to be a question or an exclamation.
>
> Its both.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrobang

yes, yes, yes - but WTF is the improperly referenced squid
apostrophe Wikipedias punctuation mark pages?

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Des
PostPosted: 2008-08-07 12:01:42
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darsy wrote:

> In fact, arguably, the exclamation mark
> isnt strictly necessary in fiction at all.

That might be true for fiction which doesnt contain dialogue...

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Grumpy
PostPosted: 2008-08-07 03:06:00
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On 7 Aug, 10:45, darsy wrote:
> On Aug 7, 10:20 am, CT wrote:
>
> > Ace wrote:
> > > On Thu, 7 Aug 2008 01:50:01 -0700 (PDT), Grumpy
> > > wrote:
>
> > > > Whats wrong with ?! ?!
> > > > Can you understand it?
>
> > > No, I dont know if its supposed to be a question or an exclamation.
>
> > Its both.
>
> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interrobang
>
> yes, yes, yes - but WTF is the improperly referenced squid
> apostrophe Wikipedias punctuation mark pages?
>

Eh?!


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